This episode of The Backpack explores some unusual career paths! Lawyer turned novelist Robert McCaw wrote the thrillers "Fire and Vengeance" and "Off the Grid." His new book, "Death of a Messenger," is due out in early 2021. He lives part-time in Hawaiʻi (where his books are set), and has hiked extensively in Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Our other guest, Kelly Smith Tucker, was the first on-air female meteorologist ever hired at Fox 17 in Grand Rapids. She went on work as a news anchor before leading global communications at Whirlpool Corporation.